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city of buehler, they will remove the cross from the city seal and the city properties because this group, freedom from religion foundation complained that it violates the establishment cause of the constitution. >> dana: one thing i look in to with this is the seal was redesigned 24 years ago. that's when a lot of lawsuits happened. what they were trying to do here, not make a religious point but historic point. the city was established by menonite immigrants seeking refuge from religious persecution. this is an historic point and what marks the town to make it different. they have a point of history to look to. i don't think anyone putting the cross on there was making a religious point, necessarily, though they might be faithful christians. the town was founded -- you can't run away from your history. >> kimberly: brian, the mayor there said concerns over the lawsuit were deciding factor i in deciding to remove the cross. >> brian: i blame your people. the legal people. the legal people of this world fears to use taxpayer money to defend the right to show the cross. that has everybody
city of buehler, they will remove the cross from the city seal and the city properties because this group, freedom from religion foundation complained that it violates the establishment cause of the constitution. >> dana: one thing i look in to with this is the seal was redesigned 24 years ago. that's when a lot of lawsuits happened. what they were trying to do here, not make a religious point but historic point. the city was established by menonite immigrants seeking refuge from...
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it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> andrea: 32 days until the nation is set to go over so-called fiscal cliff and president obama is still in campaign mode. in hatfield, pennsylvania, the president was demonizing republicans -- shocker. meanwhile, house speaker john boehner seems willing to negotiate, as long as it's in good faith. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's accept to believe you for a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. >> let's not kid ourselves. i'm willing to move forward in good faith. our original framework still stands. >> andrea: the republican leader mitch mcconnell said he burst in laughter when tim geithner outlined the president's plan. what's next? rush limbaugh and charles krauthammer want republicans to walk away and let obama own the mess. >> the best thing to do is back out of this and let obama and democrats have it and do what you want to do. th
it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> andrea: 32 days until the nation is set to go over so-called fiscal cliff and president obama is still in campaign mode. in hatfield, pennsylvania, the president was demonizing republicans -- shocker. meanwhile, house speaker john boehner seems willing to negotiate, as long as it's in good faith. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's accept to believe you for a handful of republicans in congress to...
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i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, greg gutfeld. 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: nbc sports -- >> dana: nbc sportscaster bob costas got in trouble for politicizing the murder-suicide by jovan belcher. bill o'reilly just sat down with costas moments ago to talk about the controversy. we at "the five" have the first clip. you will hear that in a moment. first, a 9/11 call has just been released in the case. this is belcher's mother cheryl shepard pleading for help after the mother of her granddaughter was shot by her own son. listen. >> dana: his mom obviously a strong woman, kimberly. some people asked today is it the case of the law that you have to release a 9/1 9/11 dash 911 tape like this or do they keep them private? >> andrea: if a request is made, subpoena to the tape and get reporting they are allowed to because it's part of the public record. once you do the proper steps you can get it. certain case, judge or prosecutor is pending, which we don't have here, because everybody is deceased that was involved in it. they ca
i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, greg gutfeld. 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: nbc sports -- >> dana: nbc sportscaster bob costas got in trouble for politicizing the murder-suicide by jovan belcher. bill o'reilly just sat down with costas moments ago to talk about the controversy. we at "the five" have the first clip. you will hear that in a moment. first, a 9/11 call has just been released in the...
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it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." >> eric: breaking news about the former president george h.w. bush. he is currentfully stable condition after being admitted to the methodist hospital in houston, texas, for treatment of a lingering cough. he is 88 years old and has been in and out of the hospital with lingering pull mo noir issues. your thoughts on him quickly. >> dana: good news today because i talked to somebody close to him on his staff and said he had bronchitis and they were worried that it might turn in to pneumonia. but he is doing great because the hospital staff is charmed. feeling better. wish him the best. >> eric: all the best. feel better. our prayers and our hearts go out. keep you up to date on the story. president obama had an interesting lunch today. governor romney spent an hour or so at 1600 pennsylvania avenue we check it out and found the practice is pretty darn common. look at the pictures. president obama with john mccain in 2008. bush and clinton in '92. bush and dukakis in
it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." >> eric: breaking news about the former president george h.w. bush. he is currentfully stable condition after being admitted to the methodist hospital in houston, texas, for treatment of a lingering cough. he is 88 years old and has been in and out of the hospital with lingering pull mo noir issues. your thoughts on him quickly. >> dana: good news today because i talked to somebody close to him on his staff and said he had...